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The advertising industry does something right for a change.

Posted on 2007.03.10 at 17:47
where am I: home for now
How I feel about it all: impressedimpressed
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Go watch this, especially if you have little girls (Warning: could be somewhat triggery for people with eating/body image disorders).

Also This one, which actually had me close to tears.

This one really did make me cry. I hate when that happens.

ETA: Fixed duplicate link.

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Isis
isiscolo at 2007-10-03 22:09 (UTC) ()
This may interest you, too!
newleaf31
newleaf31 at 2007-10-03 22:26 (UTC) ()
OMG, the post you linked is COMPLETELY BRILLIANT. Wow. I mean... wow.
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primroseburrows at 2007-10-03 22:52 (UTC) ()
It's amazing what the fashion industry has done to girls. And to BOYS, too, because a lot of those ads are targeted at them.

It's really an international tragedy that has to be stopped somehow. I don't know what it is, but I'm going to buy Dove products, even if they do plug Wal-Mart along with it (I draw the line at Wal-Mart). If Dove wanted a successful ad campaign, they've got one, at least as far as I'm concerned.

I ETA'ed a couple of more films. The third one is heartbreaking.

You've seen the Beautiful video, right? Makes me cry every time. The girl with the braces? Was me (only with ADD weirdness instead of braces). I used to have an icon of her. I should really start using it again.
newleaf31
newleaf31 at 2007-10-03 22:20 (UTC) ()
Last semester I co-taught a class with the chair of the OT faculty called "Women, the Church, and Cultural and Ecclesial Diversity" (weighty title!), and I actually used that second short film in the class on the day that we talked about the way the media has co-opted the female body (and, by correlation, female sexuality) and turned it into a distorted canvas for advertising. There are also a series of documentaries that our media library had available, called "Killing Us Softly," made in the '70s, '80s, and '90s by a filmmaker called Jean Kilbourne. They're three really in-depth explorations of how the advertising industry constantly puts forth negative stereotypes of women, and how such images damage both women and men. I'd love to own these documentaries myself, but I haven't been able to find them for purchase or even for hire anywhere except university libraries. But if you ever get to see them, you totally should. Powerful stuff, incredibly powerful.

(I'm thinking you didn't mean this to happen, but the second one is the same link as the third one.)
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primroseburrows at 2007-10-04 01:24 (UTC) ()
I'd love to own these documentaries myself, but I haven't been able to find them for purchase or even for hire anywhere except university libraries. But if you ever get to see them, you totally should. Powerful stuff, incredibly powerful.

I'll look them up. Google Is My Friend. :) Also, fixed the link! I sent a link to the last video to i_am_a_hannah who looks like this(she's the lovely young woman in green on the far left of the row)yet sometimes still will speak disparagingly of aspects of her body she doesn't like:



Actually, ALL these women are really beautiful ladies (Daughters Hannah and Mary, DIL Trish, and Trish's gorgeous Mum Marilyn, L to R). None of them fit the pattern of what's fashionable because none are inclusively tall, slender, and fine-boned. But gorgeous? You betcha, every one of them. And not just because they're awesome. *loves* And even if they were ugly (which is SUCH a subjective description), would that make them, or me, or you, less? Uh-uh. I have to remember that myself sometime when I look in the mirror and expect to see twenty-four and find forty-six staring me in the, um. Face.

I've been thinking more and more about how our very selves are formed very young and really would love to do something to help change the way children are taught to view themselves, and by extension other people. I'm a victim survivor of bullying, so I'm really sensitive to pressures that kids Be "Normal", whatever that is. And sometimes "Normal" is impossible to achieve without a. Photoshop, b. Surgery, an c. Tons of money. And even with all those, there's really no such thing. :/
the day you left was just my beginning
patchfire at 2007-10-04 01:36 (UTC) ()
Dear god your kids are growing up. Hannah looks so much older than I remember her looking!

Also, if you saw the three of them - Hannah, Mary, and Trish - and didn't know their ages, it would be hard to know who was oldest, etc.
A Revolutionary Biscuit of Italy
revbiscuit at 2007-10-03 22:24 (UTC) ()
Weird, isn't it? I can't remember how or when, but once I came across a website for a photographic studio that specialises in hairbrushing pictures. It was bizarre. This woman who, lying on one side, had the tiniest roll of skin - couldn't even call it fat - on her hip had her waist reduced by a good inch, and then there was a group photo of Depeche Mode minus 80% of their wrinkles!

All pictures had a before and after example, presumably so you could see how convincingly these people could doctor any photograph. Scary.
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primroseburrows at 2007-10-04 01:29 (UTC) ()
All pictures had a before and after example, presumably so you could see how convincingly these people could doctor any photograph.

Dude. I've SEEN that website. I wish I had the URL but del.icio.us didn't exist back when I saw it (what, a couple of years ago?)

I'd love to learn to DO this. Not to doctor photographs for the media, but to understand how it's done. And to make cool icons. *g*
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patchfire at 2007-10-03 22:56 (UTC) ()
The third link is the same as the second, for me. :(
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primroseburrows at 2007-10-04 01:24 (UTC) ()
Fixed! *runs off to DL AIM*
the day you left was just my beginning
patchfire at 2007-10-04 01:32 (UTC) ()
Eeee!
the day you left was just my beginning
patchfire at 2007-10-04 01:34 (UTC) ()
And, OMG. The last one. OMG. *weeps*
Jess
aphephobia at 2007-10-04 00:32 (UTC) ()
The last two are the same link... just thought I'd mention it.

I saw the second and third one a few months ago, and it just pissed me the hell off. I used to argue that teenage girls should have to learn PhotoShop techniques in high school- sure, there's a good thing in learning a skill like graphics manipulation, but also... it would teach them in a non-pushy way just how manipulated and unrealistic and fucked-with everything they see in the media is.

I mean, sure, young boys could learn from that, too, but they aren't the ones having the same level of "you are what you look like-- and you should aspire to look like this" pushed onto them.

That said, I'll be showing my kids stuff like this as they get older and we can talk about it. I'm really careful of how I deal with the body image stuff in front of my kids... even though I'm on shakey ground with all that stuff personally, I don't want my sons growing up thinking that it's normal and acceptable for women to hate themselves and their bodies. I've dated enough dipshits who think it's perfectly acceptable for me to eat two pieces of lettuce while they wolf down a steak the size of my head... (I can think of two men who haven't been like that with me, actually) I don't want my sons becoming another two of those guys.
try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
primroseburrows at 2007-10-04 01:27 (UTC) ()
Fixed the link, thanks. It's hard to find the actual URL on that site for some reason. The films are great, but they need a better web designer.

I used to argue that teenage girls should have to learn PhotoShop techniques in high school- sure, there's a good thing in learning a skill like graphics manipulation, but also... it would teach them in a non-pushy way just how manipulated and unrealistic and fucked-with everything they see in the media is.

This is a great idea! The course could be "Photoshop and the Ad Industry: Things aren't as they seem" or something. Teach them the skills AND show them the deceptive media.

*uses Delenn icon because she's one kickass female*
Doug
eltonroo at 2007-10-05 02:21 (UTC) ()
You will be happy to know that the Yankees are getting hammered in Cleveland tonight.
For the record I am hoping for a Sox-Cubs world series.
try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
primroseburrows at 2007-10-05 22:34 (UTC) ()
If there's a Sox-Cubs World Series I will Cry. I'll be happy, but still. I LOVE THE CUBS. But not as much as I love the Sox. Woe.
Doug
eltonroo at 2007-10-06 01:15 (UTC) ()
Well it is looking like you won't have to worry about this. The Cubs are in trouble.
the day you left was just my beginning
patchfire at 2007-10-05 04:23 (UTC) ()
That amazing edit in CSI NY last night? Go to here for a link to it. I told you it would be on youtube within the day!!
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