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We all will live, we all will die, there is no wrong, there is no right,the circle only has one side

Posted on 2004.19.12 at 00:37
How I feel about it all: mellowmellow
Soundtrack: Travis - Side
Does this sound familiar to anyone? :/ It would to people my mother's age who remember the Japanese containment camps.

Comments:


diamond_dust06 at 2004-12-19 06:10 (UTC) ()
27 percent of respondents said all Muslim Americans should be required to register their location with the federal government.

Of all the things this article reports, this bit makes me want to vomit the most. And I'm hardly surprised that religious Republicans support this more than non-religious Democrats.
try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
primroseburrows at 2004-12-19 14:23 (UTC) ()
I suppose next we can add the red crescent to the yellow star and the pink triangle.

Maybe it's not a majority saying these things, but it's scary. It's a culture of fear we have now, isn't it?
peacey at 2004-12-19 12:47 (UTC) ()
"27 percent of respondents said all Muslim Americans should be required to register their location with the federal government.

26 percent said mosques should be closely monitored by U.S. law enforcement agencies.

29 percent agreed undercover law enforcement agents should infiltrate Muslim civic and volunteer organizations to keep tabs on their activities and fund raising.

22 percent said the federal government should profile citizens as potential threats based on the fact they are Muslim or have Middle Eastern heritage."


What this article failed to point out is that these figures are typically far less than a majority if only presented with a yes or no question (if that's how these questions were posed. The article fails to show us this). I would like to see exactly how the questions were phrased. I'd like to see ALL the figures and I'd like to know the margin of error.

It's not that I doubt that there is disturbing (although very predictable and just as understandable) information contained in the survey. It's just that when all the facts aren't presented, I smell spin.
peacey at 2004-12-19 13:01 (UTC) ()

As I had expected...

I downloaded the full survey. What I found was that the questions weren't questions at all. There were statements that the participants were asked to agree or disagree with. The statements were:

All Muslim Americans should be required to register their whereabouts with the federal government.

Mosques should be closely monitored and surveilled by US law enforcement agencies.

US government agencies should profile citizens as potential threats based on being Muslim or having Middle Eastern heritage.

Muslim civic and volunteer organizations should be infiltrated by undercover law enforcement agents to keep watch on their activities & fundraising.

Now. As per table seven in the survey, *48%* of the respondents agreed with NONE of the statements. Fifteen percent agreed with one and twenty nine agreed with two or more. The margin of error of the survey is +/- 3.6 percent. So as I suspected, a VAST majority aren't buying into these statements and the article presented this survey as complete spin.
try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
primroseburrows at 2004-12-19 14:21 (UTC) ()

Re: As I had expected...

Well, I'm not surprised that the spin doctors are doing their work. But. I've found that where there's spin, there's often fire, to mix metaphors awfully.

The fact that fifteen or twenty-nine percent agreed with any of these makes me want to gag. I wonder if the numbers wouldn't have been similar during WW2.



Oh, and! Your presents arrived. *hugs* You are so thoughtful! You'll be getting mine a bit late as money is tighter than anything while we're moving.
peacey at 2004-12-19 14:44 (UTC) ()

Re: As I had expected...

Where there's spin, there's an agenda. That's why I take everything I read and hear in the news with a grain of salt. Both sides have an agenda and both sides spin. The truth is usually in the middle. And yeah, it kinda turns my stomach too that 15% & 29% agree with one or two of them too. But under the current circumstances the world finds itself in, it's predictable and even understandable.

As for the prezzies, I'm glad they got there. I was beginning to wonder. :) Enjoy and Merry Christmas. :)
try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
primroseburrows at 2004-12-19 15:13 (UTC) ()

Re: As I had expected...

Why are you never online? *bites nails in frustration*
robinhoo at 2004-12-19 18:04 (UTC) ()
Holy crapamoly, even though these stats are totally subjected to massive spin, the results are still terrifying. The fact that 1/4 of the people polled agreed with such McCarthy-like statements tells me that a significant number of Americans learned nothing from the Cold War or from the deaths of 6 million people under the Third Reich. *shivers in fear*
try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
primroseburrows at 2004-12-19 18:23 (UTC) ()
Yeah. I agree wholeheartedly that left and right both use more spin than the Harlem Globetrotters. But dude. The fact that a noticable percentage would agree with this stuff is scary, scary. What's next, the return of the House Un-American Committee? Or do we already have that, just with different labels?
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