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in case anyone, y'know, was wondering...

Posted on 2005.18.04 at 13:05
How I feel about it all: amusedamused
Soundtrack: Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me
Viagra ruled Kosher for Passover.

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waremtae
waremtae at 2005-04-18 13:25 (UTC) ()
OMG!! That is too damn funny.
diamond_dust06 at 2005-04-18 13:39 (UTC) ()
*snorts* Yet another case of Orthodox chauvinism. God forbid that a man go without an artificial erection for a week.

If the pill's coating is considered hametz, and you're not supposed to eat any hametz at all during Passover, then putting the pill in a little kosher gelatin capsule doesn't negate the fact that you're still ingesting hametz. Peanuts aren't kosher for Passover either (at least not for Jews of Eastern European descent), and coating them in chocolate doesn't make them any more acceptable.
try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
primroseburrows at 2005-04-18 17:31 (UTC) ()
I suppose technically they could dump the inside out of the capsule (if it's a capsule) and put in in a glass of juice or something, but yeah. It sounds pretty hypocritical to me. But still funny.
Dave
stormwynd at 2005-04-18 22:51 (UTC) ()
Viagra isn't a capsule; it's a compressed pill, if that's the correct term.
try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
primroseburrows at 2005-04-19 08:47 (UTC) ()
Yeah, I went back and reread that.

The thing about fundamentalism in any religion (and I'm not sure this is the term to use for Orthodox Jews, but you know what I mean) is that not only do they insist on taking everything literally, but because they do that, they make themselves out to be hypocrites when they want something to go their way and it doesn't fit the Law of whatever religion they ascribe to. Christians do it all the time. They say they take the Bible literally, but if they did, wouldn't they eat Kosher too, or something close to it? They pull the miniscule amount of homosexual references out, and totally ignore the how many hundred dietary laws?



Dave
stormwynd at 2005-04-19 23:25 (UTC) ()
In my (admittedly biased) experience, people who interpret the Bible literally do so in search of justification for their own biases, not in search of moral guidance.

And to top it off, many English translations of the Bible (especially the King James version, which is often the one interpreted literally) have been acknowledged as being historically and factually inaccurate.
One damn minute, Admiral.
trempnvt at 2005-04-19 10:40 (UTC) ()
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4444839.stm

Apparently, the reason it's permissible is because if you put it in the capsule, then since you're swallowing it whole, the coating never comes in contact with the body, and only the actual drug part gets into your bloodstream. Which doesn't make Viagra kosher for Pesach, but it means that any pill which has a chametz coating can be taken if you put it in a gelatin capsule. I can understand that reasoning, but the focus on Viagra seems fishy, unless it's the only drug that works that way.
try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
primroseburrows at 2005-04-19 11:26 (UTC) ()
Okay, question from an uneducated gentile: Isn't the inside of the body still "the body", or does is something forbidden only if it doesn't touch the outside of the body?
One damn minute, Admiral.
trempnvt at 2005-04-19 11:59 (UTC) ()

Not really sure...

It's no doubt complicated, and I'm not an authority, so I don't really know. But I can throw out some thoughts:

1. Could be that the gelatin capsule actually traps what's inside, and only the chemicals are able to escape. I have no idea whether this is the case or not...but I don't think it's likely. It could be something else along these lines, though.

2. On Passover, Jews aren't supposed to eat, own or have financial benefit from any food that is 'chametz' (basically, anything that includes leavened bread). The question is, what's considered food? And the answer is, anything that a dog would eat (I guess 'anything that a human would eat' is considered too lenient?). So it could be that by the time the drug escapes through the capsule (or the capsule melts, or however it works), since the pill has been through the preliminary stage of the whole digestion process, it's no longer fit for a dog's consumption, so we don't consider it food anymore.

3. The other possibility has to do with keeping kosher in general--Jews aren't allowed to eat non-kosher, but by 'eat,' it specifically refers to swallowing. If one puts a piece of pork in one's mouth, realize what it is, and then spit it out, one has not violated any law. So it could be that it only is considered chametz starting from when it's in the stomach, and once it's in the stomach, you can't swallow it anyway. I highly doubt that this is the answer, A because of what Ben said, and B because the prohibition on Passover against chametz is not just eating, but also against owning and having benefit from, and you pretty much have rights to anything inside your stomach.
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