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Posted on 2005.26.05 at 11:54
How I feel about it all: coldcold
Soundtrack: Paul Simon - The Obvious Child
Geh. Yet another reason why I read Neil's blog--He's at least as geeky as I am:

I WANT TO VISIT THESE PLACES LIKE NOW. My odd love for cemeteries is well, odd, but who cares. Apparently I'm in good company, at least.

I mean, geez. Just look at these pictures. They're eery and beautiful and make me all shivery.

In other news, I'm freezing, I have no hot water, I can't find my cell phone OR my digicam, I'm working a double shift tomorrow, and I have to drive to NH to pick up mr_t00by this evening. I'm getting my hair coloured, which is good because my roots are SCARY these days. And Hannah graduates on Sunday, whee!

Also, I have a question for those of you who watch Reality TV: I've been wondering why people watch American Idol, Survivor, The Apprentice, America's Top Model, etc. To me watching something that exploits superficial beauty, greed, backbiting, and bullying is nausea-making. I think it's teaching kids a really bad lesson about what's important in life.

I sound like a pompous ass, I'm sure, but I really wanna know. IMO, this stuff is poison. What's the draw? And, have I asked this before? I sound familiar. *dorky grin*

Also again, is there anyone who knows anything about urban exploration? Y'know, basically sneaking into abandoned/condemned places to take lots of pictures (although I think that some people actually camp out in some of these places). Just curious. *whistles innocently*


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chickadilly at 2005-05-26 16:24 (UTC) ()
I love cemetaries too. I love to go and wonder about the people buried there and what sort of life they lead.

Plus there's something hauntingly beautiful about old cemetaries. :)

No answer on Reality TV since I don't watch it though I do agree that it seems to exploit superficial things rather than what really is important.
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primroseburrows at 2005-05-26 16:44 (UTC) ()
I think cemeteries and abandoned places are magical, in the truest sense. Sometimes the energy is palpable.I've been drawn to them more and more recently.
irinaauthor at 2005-05-26 16:25 (UTC) ()
I think it's teaching kids a really bad lesson about what's important in life.

I know what's important in my life and am secure in my values, and I neither have nor live with kids who could be warped and/or poorly influenced by my TV viewing. So, guilt-free, I can watch and enjoy Survivor (though I haven't lately; it's gotten really boring the last few seasons. Instead, I TiVo it and fast forward to the vote at the end), The Apprentice (ditto), Desperate Housewives, South Park, and other shows that are not appropriate for children but are extremely funny and enjoyable for me. (I never got into American Idol or ANTM, though. Was never really interested in the concepts.) Just because something isn't child-friendly doesn't mean it isn't fun.

Survivor - I watch because it's an extreme game show. I'm endlessly fascinated by how smart some people are and how dumb others can be. And, also, it's always awesome to watch obnoxious, self-absorbed blowhards get knocked down a peg or two.

Apprentice - I watch this for Donald Trump, basically. I fast forward through the rest of the show and only watch the parts he's in. He's so weird and dorky and not very smart, and his hair and pink ties are hilarious. In addition, see the last sentence above.

American Idol - Never got into this one, but the people I know who enjoy it do so because they like to watch talented people sing and dance. Nothing wrong with that, IMO.

ANTM - Don't know. Never really saw the appeal.
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primroseburrows at 2005-05-26 16:40 (UTC) ()
Just because something isn't child-friendly doesn't mean it isn't fun.

This is true. I just don't find bullying and lying and backbiting entertainment. And I hate pretty much all of what The Donald stands for. It's not just kids that are being taught that greed is good and stuff, and not everyone is secure in their values. Still, I'm not saying these things shouldn't be broadcast. *snuggles First Amendment* I just don't get them.

I get the extreme game show bit, and Survivor is probably the least of my RTV dislikes.

I've seen some of AI. I figure it's Star Search with added snark. The thing is I don't get why the snark is so entertaning to people.

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inkandalchemy at 2005-05-26 17:24 (UTC) ()
Reality TV... *shudders* The closest I've come to watching anything Reality TV was when my roommates got into "He's A Lady" (the one on Bravo where the winner was whichever guy could fake being a woman the best.) I watched about thirty seconds of the premiere episode, and within that time established which guy should've won, which guy was actually going to win, and which guy would make it really really far but wouldn't win because he was a really big jerk.

I then watched only enough of the final episode to be smug that I had called all three of them from the first episode. And complained once that the guy who had been the best wasn't the one who won.

I really don't understand the appeal of watching an entire season of humanity at its worst - its most cruel and competitive and self-serving. The ONLY thing I liked about He's A Lady is that the guy who won wasn't any of those things.
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littlealex at 2005-05-26 22:38 (UTC) ()
I like watching reality television because it puts regular people into extraordinary circumstances. I think there are three types of reality TV and there's a BIG difference between them. I think there are the following: shows like Survivor and The Amazing Race, ones like American Idol and The Apprentice, and ones like America's Top Model and The Bachelorette.

I'm not saying which is better, but the only reason I would ever tune into the last category is because it's 1AM and there's nothing else showing.

That said, I like the first category for the first reason. Sure, Survivor pits people against each other and The Amazing Race pits people against themselves, but in the end what it all shows is human nature. Admittedly, I don't watch them every week with a sociological mind saying, "well that's such an archetypical response", but it does (especially at the end of a series) leave room for some contemplation on (American, but not exclusively so) society as a whole, and the individuals that comprise it.

Shows in the second category are interesting because they show people's ambitions, but Idol (in all its various national forms) does get a bit sentimental and boring, and The Apprentice portrays people who you wouldn't necessarily like to meet in real life. However, it does give you time to look at the world, and people's behaviour, from another perspective, putting your mind where the judge's standpoint is and looking at the world from that angle. It doesn't change your outlook, but it informs it a little better on other people. That said, my opinion on those shows are iffy because, well, they're people being judged, and it's always easy to dismiss a person because one judge just doesn't like them (mostly The Apprentice there).

We have a great reality show here in that second category called My Restaurant Rules, and the network gives five couples from five Australian capital cities money to build and open a new restaurant. It's a popularity contest in the end, but the real hard work that the couples put into their restaurants and the blood, sweat and tears that you see them putting into it, it's not just a game show, it's not just about greed, it's about making someone's dream come true. And you could say that about Idol or The Apprentice really, but somehow MRR feels more real; you'd probably have to see it for yourself to understand, but it's one of the only popularity contest shows I've voted for, because the Sydney couple is just so fantastic and they really deserve to win their restaurant.

Wow that turned into a mini thesis. Hope it was enlightening ;)
irinaauthor at 2005-05-26 23:30 (UTC) ()
I LOVE the Amazing Race. I love seeing what all the places they go look like. These are places I will probably never get to visit, and I adore looking at them and seeing the scenery and the people who live there and learning about the customs of other cultures. TAR is probably my All Time Favorite Show.
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primroseburrows at 2005-05-27 09:45 (UTC) ()
The Amazing Race actually sounds interesting. It wouldn't fit in my work-evenings-and-can't-program-my-VCR glamourous lifestyle, though. :/
stormwynd at 2005-05-27 01:33 (UTC) ()
I was going to post just about the same response, but hey, why go to all that trouble when I can just type "I AGREE!" :-)

Well said.
peacey at 2005-05-27 20:46 (UTC) ()
The only "reality" show I watch is "Survivor" and I do so because I find group dynamics fascinating. Now, granted, I don't have unrestricted access to all the edited bits (and let's face it, the producers/directors can cut any show any way they want). Regardless, I just find this show fascinating. And any kids that really take this seriously has issues anyway. I mean, come on. Kids aren't stupid and they've got to realize that this is as far from "reality" as it gets. I'd have no compunction to keep my kids from watching "Survivor" if only to point to it as a negative example of how to behave.

Now, on the other hand, shows like "The Bachelor", "The Swan", et al I DO believe are a kind of poison that undermines people's self confidence and stress self absorption and shallowness at best.
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primroseburrows at 2005-05-28 21:15 (UTC) ()
I think that America's New Top Model fits in the poison category--talk about breeding the next generation of anorexics. :/

And don't kid yourself that kids don't take these things seriously. You and I were out there with Han and Luke in a galaxy far, far away, but a lot of kids think you have to be like Paris or Britney or any of the myriad of people who've sold their souls to Stardom out there. Not to mention that bullies are made, not born. Exposure to people mocking others for entertainment purposes is one good way to do it.

I think the biggest reason stuff like this gets me so upset is that I know very well what it's like to be on the recieving end of it. And yeah, the people on AI know they're going to be mocked. But it sends a message to people that it's okay to tease and verbally abuse someone else, and that's a lesson that should never even potentially be learned. I'm not exaggerating the pain felt by victims of this kind of thing. Been there, done that.
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