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I've sat upon the setting sun, but never never, never never, I've never wanted water once

Posted on 2007.25.05 at 14:19

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Band2-Mathematiker
missapocalyptic at 2007-05-25 19:12 (UTC) ()
Good stuff.

...likes his name; that is, he likes "Benton" as opposed to benign diminutives such as "Ben". He does allow himself a certain fondness for Ray Vecchio's use of "Benny"; however he thinks of it as a term of endearment rather than an actual name.

See, in fic RayK often starts calling him "Ben" when they become lovers. It's not as if this were a complete pet peeve of mine, it doesn't make the story less pleasurable for me, I just don't agree with that notion very much. Maybe that's a completely personal thing, but names have a certain sound for me (I'm sure that's true for everyone, but it's not the same sound for all of us). And for me, Fraser is not a "Ben". He just isn't. And so I like it when Ray either keeps calling him "Fraser" (because, yes, IMHO last names can be as familiar and gentle as first or nicknames), or starts calling him "Benton", because for me that's what he is.
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primroseburrows at 2007-05-26 00:59 (UTC) ()
I think that Fraser doesn't hate being called "Ben", so he doesn't correct people who do it. The people who care about him seem to call him "Benton": his father, for one. I think Quinn does, and Frobisher. I don't remember what Eric calls him, I'll have to go back and rewatch that episode (which I've been thinking about doing for a while now, actually).

The people who don't care about him, or don't know him well (Victoria, for one), call him "Ben". So my theory actually holds water. *g*

One of my favourite fics is Denise Raymond's All the Comforts of Home. I've always liked that Ray calls Fraser "Benton" here, and then I find out in the prequel that he does it because Fraser explicitly told him to. *loves*

I also like to think that Ray likes Ray calling him "Benny" because it's what his mother used to call him, although Fraser doesn't really remember it consciously. :)

And yeah, last names can definitely be as endearing and gentle as first names. X-Files fans can attest to that.
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j_s_cavalcante at 2007-05-28 22:35 (UTC) ()
names have a certain sound for me (I'm sure that's true for everyone, but it's not the same sound for all of us). And for me, Fraser is not a "Ben". He just isn't. And so I like it when Ray either keeps calling him "Fraser" (because, yes, IMHO last names can be as familiar and gentle as first or nicknames), or starts calling him "Benton", because for me that's what he is.

OMG, you're right about this. Well, what I mean is, I agree. Thanks for articulating it so well. I've had RayK call him "Ben" in some of my earlier stuff, but I can't seem to get Ray to do it any more. In my head, he calls him "Fraser" or, more familiarly, "Frase." Since we hear Ray call him "Benton-buddy" one time, I think "Benton" might work sometimes, too. But Fraser it is, for most purposes.
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primroseburrows at 2007-05-29 02:49 (UTC) ()
What I like best about Denise Raymond's prequel is that the issue is addressed in a very cool way, and it's emphatic!Fraser who does it. It's just a great little fic all around.

I have to think about what Fraser calls himself, ficwise. It probably depends on the circumstances.
Band2-Mathematiker
missapocalyptic at 2007-05-29 11:09 (UTC) ()
I love "Frase". It's very affectionate and very Ray. Also, yay, given the amount of fic that features "Ben" I always thought I were kinda weird not liking it.
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primroseburrows at 2007-05-29 22:20 (UTC) ()
I dunno if I don't like it. My inner Fraser doesn't like it.

Clearly I'm not playing with a full deck. Fishing in a stocked stream. [insert catchy phrase here that means 'completely unhinged'] Also, just to support the theory regarding my mental state, I'm now thinking, hey, I wonder what Dief calls him.
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