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Posted on 2007.08.10 at 00:24

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DeafScribe
deafscribe at 2007-10-08 05:35 (UTC) ()
*sigh*

My first thought was that perhaps Canada was blindsided when the U.S. started adding peace activists to a database intended to track violent felons and the like.

But under Harper, it's just as likely they have been fully aware all along and agreed to cooperate with Cheney & Co.

The one positive effect I can see from this is that it could reinvigorate political protest here in the U.S., if people realize that moving to Canada may not be an option if things get even uglier here.

I must say I was baffled when Canadians elected a conservative leader, after years of seeing the results of conservative thinking in the States. But maybe their election was distorted too.
try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
primroseburrows at 2007-10-08 06:00 (UTC) ()
But under Harper, it's just as likely they have been fully aware all along and agreed to cooperate with Cheney & Co.

I think this is the case. Harper wants to live in the Dubya's back pocket. I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but more and more I'm thinking that there might be a whole lot of truth to what the Council for Canadians are saying about Deep Integration. I highly rec Maude Barlow's book Too Close For Comfort. It may sound alarmist, but I think there's a lot of truth in this rumour.

Also, from what I've read a lot of the plans (such as the no-fly list, further cooperation with the US on trade, etc.) happened under Liberal governments, so it's not ALL Harper, as much as I'd like to blame him for everything.

The one positive effect I can see from this is that it could reinvigorate political protest here in the U.S., if people realize that moving to Canada may not be an option if things get even uglier here.

Maybe. Hopefully. I think that most people who say they're moving to Canada don't end up going. Also, the situation's been bad and getting worse for years and political interest is still in the toilet. I'm hoping against hope that the emigration situation doesn't get too much more restrictive.

I must say I was baffled when Canadians elected a conservative leader, after years of seeing the results of conservative thinking in the States. But maybe their election was distorted too.

I don't know about distorted; I hope not. It seems like part of the reason might have been disappointment with the Martin Liberals.
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try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
primroseburrows at 2007-10-08 22:15 (UTC) ()
I don't understand the right-wing mentality when it comes to deep integration. I'd love to join a left-leaning group that opposes the SPP and all that unification stuff, but there doesn't seem to be any American group around. The Council for Canadians and The Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives are the only groups I've seen that are actively working to change things, and they're not exactly local. I can't exactly keep running off to Ontario for meetings, y'know? So I read a lot. :/

And the logic of Barlow's arguments is so persuasive.

It really is. I haven't seen anything in the news to refute what she says but I have seen a bunch of stuff supporting it.
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