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I been Ayn Randed, nearly branded a Communist 'cause I'm left-handed

Posted on 2009.15.09 at 13:11
Poll #1457929 So, erm.

I guess I should read me some Ayn Rand. Where do I begin?

The Fountainhead.
3(14.3%)
Atlas Shrugged.
2(9.5%)
Something else, which I will explain in comments.
1(4.8%)
None, because your blood pressure is high enough.
2(9.5%)
Do what you want. It's all about the laissez-faire.
1(4.8%)
Holy Alan Greenspan, Batman. Are you NUTS?
6(28.6%)
Selfish ticky is selfish.
0(0.0%)


ETA Awesome Subject Line, inspired by Paul Simon and isiscolo. Whee!

Comments:


Tara
elementalv at 2009-09-15 17:22 (UTC) ()
The Fountainhead may well make your brain explode. Although Atlas Shrugged gets a bit preachy at times, it's a good end-of-the-world read.
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primroseburrows at 2009-09-15 17:33 (UTC) ()
It's just. I am so diametrically opposed to everything I've ever heard Ayn Rand believed in. I just don't know. But I think I should read some because otherwise I'm pulling opinions out of my arse, y'know?

Edited at 2009-09-15 17:33 (UTC)
suchthefangirl
suchthefangirl at 2009-09-15 17:42 (UTC) ()
Ayn Rand is my favorite author of all time, so everything I say is suspect, but:

Fountainhead lets you see her ideas, and Atlas shrugged takes them the next step. They are both very preachy in their own way, but I cannot tell you how many times I've read them both. (I used to drown in existential angst because I would never live up to the standards of the characters in those books. Um. I read them for the first time when I was still in middle school, they might have warped me).

To me A.S. always seemed like a sequel, even though they have no characters in common, it's more like a philosophy sequel. Warning, there is deeply emotionally perverse sex (noncon, etc) in Fountainhead.

Sorry. I tend to be overly passionate about her.
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primroseburrows at 2009-09-15 17:50 (UTC) ()
I've heard she was a very good writer. I want to see her ideas, which is why I'm going to read her stuff. My politics and philosophy on life are the polar opposite of hers, though (I'm more John Lennon than Alan Greenspan, y'know?), so I'm prepared to get a headache about that. ;)
peacey at 2009-09-15 17:54 (UTC) ()
Loves me some Ayn Rand. Shocking, I know.
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primroseburrows at 2009-09-15 17:56 (UTC) ()
I doubt I'll LOVE it, but it'll be interesting. Enlightened self-interest sounds like a whole world of Not My Thing.
Luzula
luzula at 2009-09-15 18:01 (UTC) ()
You should read Emma Goldman's autobiography instead! Or Peter Kropotkin's.
: )
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primroseburrows at 2009-09-15 18:09 (UTC) ()
Heheee! Well, I am trying to be well-rounded, and all. Emma Goldman, definitely.

And of course, Helen Keller, always, always. :D

Edited at 2009-09-15 18:14 (UTC)
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primroseburrows at 2009-09-15 23:22 (UTC) ()
If I end up with a good read it'll be worth my time. If it's not good, bleh. But I'll probably at least start The Fountainhead.
the day you left was just my beginning
patchfire at 2009-09-15 19:02 (UTC) ()
I actually enjoyed The Fountainhead. I disagreed with it, but I enjoyed it.
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primroseburrows at 2009-09-16 07:32 (UTC) ()
Oh, all right. :)
newleaf31
newleaf31 at 2009-09-15 19:31 (UTC) ()
I dated a guy about 9 years ago who based his entire world-view on Ayn Rand. It is diametrically opposed to every single thing I hold to be important and meaningful in the universe. I totally get the feeling that you should read it precisely for that reason -- know your enemies, after all -- but I can't bring myself to do it. I know that I would be taking a butcher knife to the book by page three. It would make me insane, because Rand is dead, which means that unless I start believing in the power of seances and stuff, I can't call her up and have a nice, rational fight with her about her foul and loathsome and repugnant philosophies... and then there could never be closure, and I would be that much closer to insanity, and the whole thing is just... ill-advised. *headshake*

The irony is, one of my least-favorite aspects of Rand is that she sees everything in black and white and leaves no room for shades of grey, whereas I am a dyed-in-the-wool (heh, metaphor) postmodernist who sees most everything in shades of grey. (See? I didn't even say "everything" -- I said "most everything.") But Rand is one of the exceptions to the rule: I can't help but see everything I know about her (which, I admit, is second-hand) in absolute terms. As in, "absolutely intolerable." So as much as I crave and long to embody the exception to her rules, she forces me into the position of exemplifying them. Existentially, it's just a dreadful position to be in.
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primroseburrows at 2009-09-15 23:27 (UTC) ()
It is diametrically opposed to every single thing I hold to be important and meaningful in the universe. I totally get the feeling that you should read it precisely for that reason -- know your enemies, after all -- but I can't bring myself to do it.

Yeah, that's why I want to read it. I figure hey, if I start to get too homicidal I'll just throw it across the room--I mean, gah. Books far more beloved have been (literally) hurled at my bedroom wall.



Edited at 2009-09-15 23:27 (UTC)
briary_flower
briary_flower at 2009-09-15 21:42 (UTC) ()
Is being able to take on Ayn Rand really that pressing? WHO do you hang around with anyhow, lol? No, I just mean - I haven't seen a copy of one of her books on a coffee table or on the back of a toilet since the 1980's. What am I reading? er ... a book about a gay kid who discovers he has superpowers. Oh, and another book about a woman who also has superpowers. But she can control the weather. Uh, forget I said anything.
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primroseburrows at 2009-09-15 23:30 (UTC) ()
It's not pressing, I just figure I should read an opposing view, and she does have some very stringent supporters, especially amongst the Right. It's a know your opposite thing, I guess, like newleaf says.

... a book about a gay kid who discovers he has superpowers. Oh, and another book about a woman who also has superpowers. But she can control the weather.

Okay, now I want to know what these books are so I can add them to my list.
Isis
isiscolo at 2009-09-15 22:04 (UTC) ()
I been Ayn Randed
Nearly branded
A Communist, 'cause I'm left-handed
Well, that's the hand to use, well, nevermind.
try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
primroseburrows at 2009-09-15 23:32 (UTC) ()
I been Ayn Randed
Nearly branded
A Communist, 'cause I'm left-handed


I was going to use that as my subject title, but it wouldn't all fit. Now I find out hey, it does!

Jess
aphephobia at 2009-09-15 23:51 (UTC) ()
If you can switch off to the unsubtle attempts at splicing in her hideous philosophy into The Fountainhead, well... I loved it for the story. Ultimately, it's about being true to yourself, not conforming, and about how people will do just about anything to protect the status quo.

Also, there is so much homoerotic subtext in it that you will explode. The hilarious thing was that Rand herself was a homophobe, yet she's writing these books where female characters seem to get ignored or cast aside or be very, very stereotypical, then she's got things about men telling one another they love one another, helping one another out when they don't need to, and swimming naked together and telling one another they love one another.

When I read the blurb, it mentioned something of a forbidden love. I honestly thought that was in reference to Roark/Keating.

Atlas Shrugged on the other hand-- I've tried about four times to get into it and I can't.
(Anonymous) at 2009-09-16 00:12 (UTC) ()
just read Anthem. It's Atlas Shrugged redux; less than 100 pages.

She's crazy, for reals, but she hits a couple of my power kinks with Dagny Taggart's romantic life (in Atlas Shrugged). Which sometimes scares me, but whatever.
Greeking the Text
lipsum at 2009-09-16 01:50 (UTC) ()
Read ANTHEM, because it's short. And then you can get a laugh out of Atlas Shrugged 2: Shrug Harder.
Greeking the Text
lipsum at 2009-09-16 01:55 (UTC) ()
P.S. I consider ANTHEM one of those sci-fi books that are Good But Wrong Due To Insufficient Social Sciences.

Back in college, I read her essay about the wrongness of altruism and found only one error in her logic. However, said error was the size of a mack truck, so I have trouble believing anyone ever took the essay seriously.
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